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shari2
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Post by shari2 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:45 pm

From:
http://aquanic.org/publicat/state/il-in ... eatment%22

"Symptoms
Fish infected with Aeromonas hydrophila may have many different symptoms. These range from sudden death in otherwise healthy fish to lack of appetite, swimming abnormalities, pale gills, bloated appearance, and skin ulcerations. The skin ulcers may occur at any site on the fish and other are surrounded by a bright rim of red tissue. Other organs commonly affected with this disease include the gills, kidneys, liver, spleen, pancreas, and skeletal muscle. The symptoms vary since they are dependent upon a number of factors including the virulence of the organism, the resistance of the fish to infection, the presence or absence of bacteremia or septicemia, and stress factors associated with the fish. Because of the variability of these symptoms, the diagnosis of this disease based only upon symptoms is highly unreliable…"

So no, I can't really be sure. It could just be chemical poisoning as momfish said. Which really sucks, because...well it just does.

The temp is back up, the water level is lower and lots of splashing going on. The filter is still brown and yucky, but flowing better, and the larger clowns are breathing more normally. Hung a bag of ammo chips over the outflow, too. I'm leaving in all the plantlife. I have had this diatom type stuff before when I get into pruning back plants to try to maintain some open space, and I never made the connection. Thanks Joe. From now on overgrown tanks are good...but I will snip off the tops of those 4 foot long runners! Probably will end up with an even denser mess, but the tanks that have the most plantlife seem to stay the healthiest and are the easiest to maintain.

GOD! I feel really lousy about losing that clown. :cry:

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Post by Jim Powers » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:49 pm

So sorry for your loss, shari. I hope what you have done in response prevents anymore deaths.
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Post by Dr. Momfish » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:54 pm

is there any major amount of phosphate in your municipal water? it's sometimes added as a buffer but it wreaks havoc in aquariums.

i'd rinse the yuk out of the filter in dechlorinated water. just so the filter is more able to mechanically filter. seeing as how, if your water is alright, the various non-green plants will start to die rather quickly (if they aren't already) and rotten plants result in large amounts of bacteria which consume lots of oxygen.

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Post by shari2 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:58 pm

I did rinse the filter in water from another tank, just to attempt to get rid of some of what may have been there.

don't have any way of testing for phospates unless you know of a DIY way? Meanwhile, the fish seem to have relaxed so now I can breathe too. there are varying schools of thought on this but I'm thinking doing daily little water changes may be a good idea... :?:

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Post by Dr. Momfish » Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:35 pm

because of the current situation, if it were my tank, i'd do 50 to 60 percent daily for a few days and then every other day. then twice a week. because if there will be a shift in what grows in the tank, then you've got to remove the breakdown products. you won't interfere with the beneficial bacteria because they live in the biofilm. it's the dissolved organics that you need to be careful about.

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Post by shari2 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:46 pm

good, because that seems like the best idea to me. Gotta get rid of the diatoms and whatever else is messing things up in there. Although, now that all the fish seem to be more comfortable they are eating the stuff. :roll:
Is good, I guess.

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Post by mikev » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:38 am

Ashleigh wrote:
mamaschild wrote:Can someone tell me what BHS is....please???

I have 11 Clowns and would hate to not know about a potential disease????
My first post, and its a depressing one :roll:
Before I found this forum, I ended up with the same problem, same fish species; http://www.oscarfish.com/round-two-for- ... ht=#549462
No others caught what it was, yet it took my favourite little beastie.
Sorry to hear about your clown, hope this is the only case you have of it.
Hi Ashleigh,

Looked at your thread on another forum carefully and wonder a bit:

You say there that he had a skinny disease? Then you say The red area around the anus has also stumped me. ..the anus is red with something red hanging out.

Could be sepsis, could be some other germ, but actually also could have been worms too. A loach I got and almost instantly lost, shown here:
http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php?t=2080
was sick with an advanced nematodic infection. Red marks (became brown after death) + strange anal discharge.

Not really saying this was the case, only that it is hard to diagnose this stuff...While Shari's pictures are clearly different yours are too blurry to know what it was...

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Post by palaeodave » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:27 am

mikev wrote:according to Google, mostly British something or Some High School......
Hehe, thats the high school I went to. Berwickshire High School in Duns. Sorry, carry on.....

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