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Found this today............

Post by Martin Thoene » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:28 pm

I suggest you cover your keyboard for drool protection.

http://www.sonic2000.com/bbs/lofiversio ... 32505.html

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http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/p ... p?news=912

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Post by Emma Turner » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:36 pm

Drool indeed!!! :shock: :mrgreen: Some really stunning specimens there.

I'm pretty sure I might have posted that PFK article on here earlier in the year. :wink: Still interesting reading for those who haven't seen it before though.

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Post by Jim Powers » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:40 pm

The first link was cool!! :shock:
I recognize one of Ken Child's pics.
The second link makes me, on one hand, want to screan "NOooooooooooooooooooo". But, on the other hand, its nice to see this stuff being sorted out.
But what about that book I keep hearing about? :wink:
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Post by TammyLiz » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:21 pm

I don't know if I've missed something obvious or not, but I don't think I've ever seen a picture of what was labeled Botia reevesae. What a beautiful fish!
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Post by Martin Thoene » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:36 pm

Neither have I. My jaw totally dropped when I saw that. Simply beautiful.

It's a Sinobotia : http://filaman.ifm-geomar.de/Summary/Sp ... p?id=46127

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Post by mikev » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:42 pm

The dream fish, without doubts....
(Would you give up your clowns for it? :twisted: )

Not too large to keep...

The problem is the locale, it is quite far from Guandong where most Chinese collection occurs.
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Post by Emma Turner » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:44 pm

Martin Thoene wrote:It's a Sinobotia.
:P :P :P Sini, Sini, Sini!!!! :P :P :P
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Post by Martin Thoene » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:26 pm

Just checking you were paying attention Em :roll:

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Post by Mark in Vancouver » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:55 pm

I'd even go for, if not a subfamily, a supergenus - as if you could... Y. sidthimunki and Y. nigrolineata seem adequately different - and similar - to class them on their own, IMO. Certainly not in the Yasukikotakia group, which always seemed couterintuitive.
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Post by Graeme Robson » Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:33 am

Very nice!! :D :D
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Post by Mad Duff » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:14 am

:shock: :shock: my poor keyboard is going to have to be replaced soon with one with a built in drool guard (patent idea - Drool Guard - A must have for all Loachaholics and LOL users :lol: )

At least Sinibotia will be easier to pronounce than Yashuhikotakia :lol:
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Post by helen nightingale » Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:47 am

At least Sinibotia will be easier to pronounce than Yashuhikotakia

and to spell :lol:

does anyone have that paper quoted on the PFK article?
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Post by Martin Thoene » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:15 am

Here Hels : http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/k ... 1/00000863

$40 kerrrrching! :roll:

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Post by Martin Thoene » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:21 am

Mark in Vancouver wrote:I'd even go for, if not a subfamily, a supergenus - as if you could... Y. sidthimunki and Y. nigrolineata seem adequately different - and similar - to class them on their own, IMO. Certainly not in the Yasukikotakia group, which always seemed couterintuitive.
Nice to know that I'm not the only one who thinks that. When Kottelat did the revision, sids and nigs just didn't "fit" with modesta as far as I was concerned. They don't fit as Sinibotia either (GOT IT RIGHT EMMA!) as far as I'm concerned.

They'll probably end up as Microsiniyasuhikotakia oe something equally tongue-twisting. :roll:

I've just E-mailed the originator of the loach pictures as it says there to contact him/her if you want to use the pictures. I've also asked about the golden loaches as it appears from the arrangement that they're leucistic versions of the regular coloured species above each.

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Post by NancyD » Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:51 pm

Wow, the S. reevesae is amazing! I've only seen the NAME a couple times.

I've been resisting learning to spell yasuhikotakia (!?) for a while now but I agree that sinibotia (got it !) doesn't seem right either. Microbotia? Cutibotia?
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