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Best Loach Conditions/Buddies?
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:28 am
by acambias
I'm mulling over which fish to get for a 10 gallon tank with a Top Fin filter--I'm willing to buy a heater if need be.
- Is a 10 gallon tank big enough for two weather loaches, or is something bigger needed?
- Also, another problem...is there a sure way to judge the health of a weather loach in a store? The only store that sells them in my area is Pet Smart, but I've heard bad things...is it even worth it? :<
- If so, what fish do best with weather loaches?
- If not...any recommendations on fish that are awesome?
Thanks!
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:38 am
by adrea
Hi acambias,
I just got some Black/Java Khulis and they are in my 10g QT tank for about 2 weeks now - and I cannot stop watching them they are so busy and do not grow large (3-4 inches)... A shoal of 5 or 6 might be nice with some small cory cats might be good.
Weathers/ Dojos grow way too too big and form my experience way too fast to maintain them in a 10g I think - you would have to be prepared to either part with them or upgrade to a bigger tank in a short while- I got 2 in Jan '08 and they have grown about 3/4 to 1 inch already... I have them in a 37 high (the really seem to enjoy the full height of the tank) and we are thnking they have another year two tops in there before we will have to upgrade.

Adrea
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:26 am
by Ashleigh
I wouldn't suggest that any of the loach species would be suitable for a 10 gallon. Even the little Java loaches and other
Pangio sp, I wouldn't go for anything less than a 20gallon as they are quite active little things
Misgurnis sp, no smaller than a 4ft should be considered.
Ashleigh
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:00 am
by starsplitter7
Here's the info from the index of loaches.
http://www.loaches.com/species-index/we ... licaudatus
Keep in mind that weather loaches get 9-10 inches and want to be kept in a group.
A ten gallons makes a good quarantine tank but for loaches, you will need a larger tank.
Good luck.

Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:57 am
by Diana
Some of the smallest Loaches, perhaps a Shistura of some sort might work in a 10, but there is no way a Weather Loach would be OK in that small a tank.
Most tropical fish will need a heater in their tank, as they are most comfortable with water temperature in the mid to upper 70s, and most people do not keep their house that warm. If you live in the tropics then a heater is not generally needed.
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:53 pm
by loachdad
just a note. I got my weather loaches in nov. 07 .They were 4" then. Now they are 7-7.5. They grow much too fast to be in 10 gallons too long.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:44 am
by Shieldmaiden
I think some Kuhlis would be OK in a 10g. Good tankmates would be danios - you can do Zebra Danios (cheap and hardy), the Glofish (just little neon-colored Danios) or my personal favorite, Pearl Danios. Danios swim mid-to-upper level and would balance out the tank nicely. Get a little school (maybe six) and a few Kuhlis. Be sure the Kuhlis have places to hide and they'll be happy.
Far as a heater, if the room temperature is fairly consistent and not too cold, you should be OK without one I would think...
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:39 am
by chefkeith
loaches, like kuhli's, need to be kept in groups of 5+. A group of loaches should not be kept in a 10 gallon tank.
Tank is too small.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:22 pm
by janma
chefkeith wrote:loaches, like kuhli's, need to be kept in groups of 5+. A group of loaches should not be kept in a 10 gallon tank.
Tank is too small.
I agree with this.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:50 pm
by Shieldmaiden
The rule I've always seen is 1 inch of fish to each 1 gallon of tank. 5 kuhils at 2 inches = 10 (gallons). Right?
My loaches are in groups of four and seem pretty happy.
Whatever you do, just never never NEVER keep one alone. And if you ever have to medicate for any reason, be sure to cut the dosage down, as loaches are very sensitive to medications.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:11 pm
by chefkeith
Shieldmaiden wrote:The rule I've always seen is 1 inch of fish to each 1 gallon of tank. 5 kuhils at 2 inches = 10 (gallons). Right?
The rule is a myth and one of the worst myths in the fish keeping hobby.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:13 pm
by janma
Kuhlis grow to 4 inches. 5 Kuhlis at 4 inches = 20 (gallons). And a 20 gallon could work.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:31 pm
by zmo63
My kuhlis are in a 20 gallon (24"), but are getting upgraded to 40 gallons (36"). I guess they're ok in the 20, but I find the small circles they have to swim in kind of sad.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:20 pm
by helen nightingale
the fish size/tank size rule takes no account of the different fishes behaviour or capacity to produce waste. it shouldnt be used IMO
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:32 pm
by Mark in Vancouver
10 gallon tanks can be extremely useful, but only for hospital or quarantine tanks when it comes to loaches. Even keeping very small tetra-sized fish in such a small tank is not a great idea.
There is no loach that will thrive in such a small tank. I agree totally with Chefkeith that the inches per gallon model is a complete myth and a rotten way to keep fish. Or, start with a minimum size of 30 or 40 gallons before considering it - and only then in tanks with live plants.
The larger water volume allows for a buffer for toxins, better filtration, and just more space for these living creatures.