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Y. Sidthimunki & Y. Nigrolineata genus?

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 6:26 am
by Graeme Robson
Anyone else heard or seen what is going on with these two. A study suggest that they form a monophyletic lineage with the Sinibotia genus. Possible move may be in line. I must admit, from the day they where recognized as part of the Yashuhikotakia genus, my personal feelings where that the identifications was a little off.

Graeme.

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:28 am
by Emma Turner
I'd be interested to know if anything more definite has been reported. Last I heard was that there was around a 96% chance that Y. sidthimunki & Y. nigrolineata would be reclassified as Sinibotia species.

Emma

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 12:44 pm
by Mike Ophir
Hey all,

Havent been around in a while. I am at Clemson University doing research in Genetics for the next 9 weeks and will have more time to visit the forum.

Out of curiousity, from where was the source that said nigrolineata and sidthimunki would be reclassified as Sinibotia?

I dont agree with nor recognize Kottelats reclassification and still refer to these as Botia. He did not provide substantial evidence nor a convincing argument as to why they were renamed.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Mike

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 12:53 pm
by Emma Turner
Hi Mike,

There was a recent paper on this: Slechtova V, Bohlen J, Freyhof J and P Rab (2006) - Molecular Phylogeny of the Southeast Asian Freshwater Fish Family Botiidae and the Origin of Polyploidy in their Evolution. (Molecular Phylogenetics & Evolution 39 (2006) 529-541).


Emma

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:22 pm
by Graeme Robson
Hi Mike, Good to see you.

Emma. I wonder if i have that paper somewhere on my Comptuers hard drive. Hmmm? Do you have one?

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:51 am
by Emma Turner
I was hoping you'd have a copy! :lol: I usually try to file all my loach PDFs together, but can't see what I've done with that one. :? I'm not the most organised person in the world, so it is probably on here somewhere but at the moment I just can't find it. Maybe Martin or Mark has a copy?

Emma

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:04 am
by Martin Thoene
No, not I.

Martin.

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:40 am
by Emma Turner
I've found it. PM me if you want a copy.

Emma

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 11:52 am
by Graeme Robson
Thanks for the papers, Emma. :D

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:26 pm
by Mike Ophir
Emma could you send me a copy of that paper as well?
If possible send it to mjophir@gmail.com

Thanks so much,

Mike

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 4:18 pm
by Emma Turner
No problem! :D

Emma

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 5:08 pm
by Mike Ophir
Thank Emma. Fascinating material!

Mike