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Kuhlii loach and natural habitat/behaviour

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:31 pm
by tender
Hi folks!
I have recently gotten engaged in a debate about Kuhliis on a local forum in Norway. My claim has been that this is a schooling species which requires a minimum number to experience safety and to be "happy". However, there has come some references to litterature which claimes that Kuhliies prefer to be alone and live separate from theyre fellow species. We all agree that in an aquarium they seem to thrive from beeing in numbers, but this is not necessarrily theyre requierments in nature. I would really appreciate some comments on this :)

Kind regards
Marius Podolski

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:21 pm
by mickthefish
Marius i remember seeing some pics of jungle mikes in borneo, in the shallws where all the leaves had collected there was a great number of kulhi's which species it does'nt say.
so it would seem they like the company of their own kind.

mick

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:10 am
by Graeme Robson
The natural habitat for Pangio's are found in great masses around plant cushions (leaf litter). I would think it's safe to say that these Loaches prefer the company of each other under the leafs.

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:23 am
by Mad Duff
Like Mick I have seen photos of them in the wild and like Graeme said they are always in large groups among the leaf litter.

I have 5 different pangio species together at the moment and they regularly group up in amongst the java fern and anubias, the plants end up looking like Christmas treas laden with tinsel :lol:

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:10 am
by tender
Hi!
Yes, this has pretty much been my point of view aswell. Are any of these pictures from the wild avilable on the net? It would be good to have something to link to.

Kind regards
Marius

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:25 am
by Emma Turner
Hi Marius,

Here is the link to Michael Lo's fantastic work: http://www.ibanorum.netfirms.com/articles.htm There are pics of Pangio habitats in there somewhere. :wink:

Emma

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:29 am
by Emma Turner
Here is one of the links that show the leaf litter habitat where huge colonies of Pangio species live: http://www.ibanorum.netfirms.com/JVL1.htm

Emma

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:53 am
by tender
Thanks a lot everybody :D :D

Marius

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:00 am
by mistergreen
these don't look like loners to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D-8BodW-8g

On a side note. I found this video of taiwan.. If you want to see Crossostoma lacustre and a whole bunch of hillstreams in their natural habitat, check it out. It's at 6:00 into the video.
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v7028455rw5enJSa

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:44 am
by Mad Duff
The film in that second link is excellent, I really liked the Pararasbora moltrechti and the Varicorhinus alticorpus :D

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:14 am
by Graeme Robson
Mad Duff wrote:The film in that second link is excellent
Indeed! :D I could watch videos like that all day long.

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:24 am
by Graeme Robson
Here's also another link to our old friend Antti Vuorela on one of his many adventures.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/vuorela.antti/indexenglish.htm

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:51 pm
by tender
There seems to be an explotion in interest of kuhliies in Norway these days. Can some of you experts identify this kuhlii? http://akvaforum.no/forumimage.cfml?img ... 2Fforum%2F

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:27 pm
by Thomas
Hi,

looks like my died P. shelfordii from last week, especially the third pic.

compare the patterns

Image

Thomas

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:39 pm
by tender
Thanks Thomas!
I think we can pretty safely say that it is a shelfordii.

Kind regards
Marius