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Okay, okay.
So I bought a clown loach, not knowing that they often grow to 10 inches. I wasn't aware of their needs regarding tank size and schooling habits. Although he's the only one of his species in my 20-gallon tank (I know, I know!), he seems fairly content for now, and even gets along with my bullying red-tailed shark.
However, I realize his current environment is less than suitable and I may try and trade him in and get a few dwarf loaches. I just want what's best for him, ya know? But I adore loaches and would love to keep some in my tank. Does everyone agree that three or four sids would be a viable, long-term option for a 20-gallon planted community tank (just a shark, a few tetras, an oto and a pleco)?
Oh - and I promise not to seek advice from employees at aquarium shops anymore.
Thanks,
Olivia

Hi and welcome Olivia!

Its good to hear that that you've recognized the problem and solving it. I would recommend that you get at least 10 Sids. You will enjoy them a lot more and they are braver in bigger groups. But as long as tank temps and other values as suitable off course.

There is a lot more I'd like to write but as its only 8:20am and Monday so my brain hasn't really activated yet

With your current crew plus planned additions think about a higher-current "river tank" set-up (look up on this website). Keeps the kids (fish) entertained in a smaller tank. Might help keep the RTS out of mischief.

TEN sids?? In a 20 gallon tank? Really?
Though I do dream of one day installing a big stream setup, my college student status currently renders me unable to make that kind of investment...
So I'm just working with my small tank for now. Are you positive it could accommodate ten sids + a few friends?

andyroo wrote:With your current crew plus planned additions think about a higher-current "river tank" set-up (look up on this website). Keeps the kids (fish) entertained in a smaller tank. Might help keep the RTS out of mischief.

Ahh... I get it now. That could be a very worthy project. Can I just use a couple powerheads to accomplish this?

Just point every nozzle you can get across the front glass in the same direction. More second-hand/yard-sale power-heads will certainly help.
Put a long bubble-stone along the back glass in the opposite corner.
Now you've got a full 3d helix-rotational flow. It'll have high-flow points and eddies for resting. I've even had angels in a set-up like this. They know where the big flow is and avoid it.
Great fun for all.
A

bolivia wrote:Okay, okay.
So I bought a clown loach, not knowing that they often grow to 10 inches. I wasn't aware of their needs regarding tank size and schooling habits. Although he's the only one of his species in my 20-gallon tank (I know, I know!), he seems fairly content for now, and even gets along with my bullying red-tailed shark.

You are not the only one to have done this......As long as we abandon our ignorant ways, there's hope (for the loaches)!

Welcome. So glad you found LOL. We have all made the same mistakes. I understand about fishkeeping on a budget. Keep in mind, you can get cheap tanks and equipment on Craigslist.com

Also, if you plan to get rid of your clown, why not see if someone on this forum is nearby? That way the clown doesn't end up in a worse situation. You care, and that goes a long way. And check for any local fish clubs, you may find a clown keeper. I have a few Sids, and they are great. Really interesting, fun, energetic.

If you go for a high-current situation check out the Stiphodon gobies and fan-shrimp. Plenty of options for small and interesting stuff.
A

Thanks for all the advice, y'all!
I think I may hold off on the sidthimunkis for a while (they've been difficult to find, anyway), and wait for my tank to grow up a bit. I've got it nicely planted now - only a matter of time!
- Olivia
Oh, and if anyone's in the Athens, GA area and wants to adopt a clown, you can have him!