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ch.koenig
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two "new" species found in the LFS

Post by ch.koenig » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:11 pm

hi all
lately I found two species I couldn't identify up till now
this one is an gastromyzon, but which one?

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looked already in the tank at the LFS inactive. normally I can manage this but this one died just after the change into one of my tanks. poor chap :(

this one could be another pseudogastromyzon

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nice, isn't it? :D
a similar species I've found here

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=pseudogastromyzon

so if anybody has an idea ...
cheers charles

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Post by Jim Powers » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:41 pm

Nice finds!!
Too bad the one died.
I don't think the surviving one is a Pseudogastromyson.
To me, it looks like a Neogastromyzon.
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Post by ch.koenig » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:07 am

hi jim
thanks for the hint
may be you are right with borneo! the "body-system" as in picture one to see is different from pseudogastromyzon. may be Heok Hui has an idea.
made some inverted pictures
the mouth is very special for borneo-types

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the "solution" for the body-shape looks more familiar to borneo-types.
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another question in a mail was that of my "sources" for those trouvailles. of course I check now and then the shops of department stores. most fish come on a way or another from glaser.de or mimbon.de and by two direct-importers in switzerland. to have an overview about the offer have a look at this

http://www.tropicwater.eu/media/pdf/sto ... fische.pdf

that's not bad, ins't it? even when loaches are rare at the moment. but schistura susannae (it it's the right one) that's a sensation in itself.

cheers charles

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Post by odyssey » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:50 am

Hi ch.koenig and Jim.

Probably I breed two fishes same as it.

When I asked it in LOL, Jim showed good information of Hypergastromyzon.

I am satisfied with identification of Jim enough.
http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php ... astromyzon

http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php ... astromyzon

I was able to obtain the fish three times this year.
They are mixed in Gastromyzon viriosus and seem to be received.

Movie is here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VID5rCorwkM
I am not used to English. Therefore,It is likely to sometimes misunderstand it.

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Post by ch.koenig » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:33 am

thanks odyssey
thanks jim
hypergastromyzon humilis, that's a good suggestion. as no living specimen are known to HHT it's hard to define.
I knew I saw it somewhere but didn't remeber where. and searched to far.
good video! :D
hope to get some more
cheers charles

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Post by Jim Powers » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:40 pm

Why did I say Neogastromyzon this time when I thought a similar looking fish was Hypergastromyzon in a previous post? :oops:
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Post by ch.koenig » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:20 pm

no problem Jim
it happens to me too
cheers charles

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Post by plaalye » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:24 pm

Lovely fish Charles! Great finds!!Sorry about the one you lost.

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Post by ch.koenig » Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:27 am

hi all
after mails with H.H.Tan: hypergastromyzon cf humilis is ok as (non scientific) identification. known to him from the trade since 2007.
gastromyzon: variation of zebrinus oder ridens.
thanks a lot to H.H.Tan at this place for his help.
I'll have a good look in this LFS to get more (as I heard they are planning a change of supplier!)
cheers charles

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