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sinogastromyzon pullienis - question of keeping

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:45 pm
by ch.koenig
hi all
I saw sinogastromyzon puliensis today in a quarantine tank, in for just one day. it's a year since I missed them to find by some days only ... (and couldn't believe they had really been there). so I reserved all 24 :D
I remember well the funny video of odyssey, but the question goes to all who have experiences with a longer-term keeping. how do they go on?
thanks for infos.
cheers charles

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:57 pm
by Jim Powers
I can't speak to keeping sinogastromyzon puliensis, but I can speak about keeping S. wui, longterm .
I have a specimen of S. wui that I have had for about 8 years now. It was already about 2 in. (5cm) when I got it so I am not sure how old it is.
It doesn't graze like other hillstreams and seems to feed almost exclusively on bloodworms which it takes from the end of a feeding tube.
I had another similar specimen in another tank that I had for about 7 years.
S. wui tends to be a shy species.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:26 am
by ch.koenig
thanks a lot jim
that's very intersting. I'm always looking fo such infos fo a bigger work.
actually I have seven s. wui, 6-7.5 cm long, at least two years old. colouring is from brown to orange-brown (1 specimen)
after a genetic work about the relationship and spreading of s. puliensis, s wui is a close , a "sister-species". very shy, I never had such problems to take pics with any other species. very strong and pushing away even rough fighting chenis. they accept all food, but it's true they don't graze.
cheers charles

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:33 am
by odyssey
It is a great achievement to breed it for eight years, Jim.

The longest term that I can breed Sinogastromyzon puliensis is only for one year for the moment.
Though it is the environment where S.wui lives more than three years, I think that probably the environment of the water tank does not match S.puliensis.

As Jim says even my experience, S.wui does not do algae grazing very much.
But I saw it rarely doing algae grazing recently.

I think S.wui to be conservative.
They rarely leave the glass surface of the water tank.
Therefore there are very few pictures which their back appeared in.
They may have stuck to a considerably big rock in the natural habitat.
S.puliensis grazes algae than S.wui and is more active.

It is the contents which did the post in LOL before.
http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php ... astromyzon

Another Hillstreamloach got mixed in with S.puliensis which arrived at Japan from Taiwan recently.
Probably I think that it is Hemimyzon.
Because I was able to get two of them, Thus I intend to introduce it soon.
I suggest to you to look for whether the long body one is not mixed.

Sinogastromyzon puliensis. Eating bloodwarm.
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Sinogastromyzon wui. Following two Sinogastromyzon wui come in July, 2006 and are still cheerful.
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:30 pm
by ch.koenig
hi
they are in and well off. as nobody had interest to share the shipping I took all 24. could compensate with the selling of 40 spotted-f1.
a little shy and "jumpers" - with every flash they make a little jump. size is from 3.5-6.5 cm.

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only thing to remark till now: some specimen have interrupted bars in the caudal fin.
seems all want to stay in the tank - no climbing as far.
and I hope to keep them for a long time.
for the moment they have good company of garra flavatra (www.glaser.de has bread and wild caught on the stocklist!!!). as even the smallest are fierce fighters - "this is my rock" :lol: - that seems not to be a problem.
cheers charles