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I was having a look a post on another site today that listed the new names for loaches and realised that Botia (probably isn't now ) Rostrata is missing, is it still Botia or has it changed.

This is the list I was looking at:
http://www.petfrd.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12446

But the Birdi phantom is listed...

Even more interesting: from the same thread:

Nalbant, TT, 2004. Hymenphysa, Hymenophysa, Syncrossus, Chromobotia and other problems in the systematics of the Botiidae. A reply to Maurice Kottelat. Travaux du Muséum National d'Histoire Naturelle "Grigore Antipa" 47: 269-277

Anyone has it per chance?

Mad Duff wrote:I was having a look a post on another site today that listed the new names for loaches and realised that Botia (probably isn't now ) Rostrata is missing, is it still Botia or has it changed.

This is the list I was looking at:
http://www.petfrd.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12446

If I remember correctly, I think Kottelat is of the opinion B. rostrata is a synonym of B. almorhae. But I don't have the paper to hand, it's still on my old computer.

Emma

So in that case shouldnt B. kubotai be classed as a synonym of B. almorhae as well.

I admit that there are that many patterns of B. almorhae some patterns do resemble B. rostrata but the B. kubotai I have was almost identical markings wise when I got it to the B. rostrata that I got with it, but now the markings have changed it is definately B. kubotai.

There have been some 'fun' discussions on LOL on this very subject. Have a trawl through the archives!

I'll check Kottelat's paper later on, but for now I'm off to the shop to help take care of tonight's shipments.

Emma

Here's another post by some bloke..............

http://www.tropicalfishforums.co.uk/for ... php?t=3334

Martin.

i dont suppose anyone has that wretched paper talked about on petfrd about b. birdi too?

we need a paper sharing area on here! its all interesting stuff

Been diggin' Helen:

http://www.nrm.se/inenglish/researchand ... 17198.html

http://zipcodezoo.com/Animals/B/Botia_birdi.asp

http://ichtyonb1.mnhn.fr/Reproduction/F ... Code=19567

Looks like our old buddy Ola is on the case.......

http://www.djurportalen.nu/forum.php?go ... 261&site=1

No pictures?

http://www.calacademy.org/research/icht ... Search.asp

Well maybe.....

http://artedi.nrm.se/nrmfish/imgsearch.php

Type in Botia birdi and choose 'Species' in Order By box......it'll give you a specemin photo.

Helen, I have a fair number of pdf files of descriptions on Loaches. I could E-mail you a list if you'd like.

Martin.

Whooo! Scratchy head time!

Not tonight! I have a 'Heedache'

cheers Martin. that would be great!

there's nothing much sadder than a bedtime novel, is there? i much prefer fish porn

anyone speak Swedish? or what might be Polish?

my brain hurts! i need a brain doctor