Loaches Online Forum

Is it possible to keep these 2 species in 1 tank 8 kubotai and 8 berdmorei?

tank size will be 1meter by 60cm by 60cm.

the tank setup are sand on the bottom, some rounded stones (about a fist big) and lots of wood.

waterflow is maintained by a river tank setup.

this setup will be there home for about 10 months. since in about 9 months we are getting a new floor with heating in it and i don't want to have to many large aquariums to move around in the house.

after this all they will be moving into a 2m by 90cm by 70cm(high)... more will be added than...

Knowing how aggressive the S. berdmorei can be, I'd have to say that I personally wouldn't mix them with B. kubotai, even for the short-term.

Emma

My S. berdmorei get alone fine with Yasuhikotakia eos and Yasuhikotakia modesta and Yasuhikotakia morleti.

I Recommend similar tank-mates.

I thinks i need more Syncrossus species come to think of it.

You going for that sort of WWE look to the tank Graeme?

Martin.

Going going gone, Martin.

hmm than i'll have to do a lot of sweettalking for another aquarium

what is the size one must consider? i can not find a max. seize of the species some say 22cm other 9cm and 14cm so i dont have a clue what should trust

Bermordei? 10in

Not normally in aquaria Mike, but 25cms is quoted by several sources. There's plenty of others giving sizes around 4.5". 11cms is often quoted.

Sizes quoted on Fishbase are often the size of the monotypic specimen, not an actual max size. It's really difficult to be accurate on sizes for the incredible number of species in our species index. That's because none of us have kept more than a fraction of them and little firm data is available.

Martin.

monotypic specimen. what does this mean? sorry my english isn't that good.

your English is excellent.

I'm pretty sure Martin means "usual", or "average".

Nothing wrong with your English.

Monotypic: Having only one representative, as a genus with a single species.

Yes that's correct Graeme, but what I meant to say was Holotype....that's the first described specimen of a species. The one in the pickle jar

Martin.

I suspect that the fish we are dealing with here [Berdmorei] could at least be a regional varient, i'd be surprised if it ever grows much over 150mm's ? has anyone come accross a larger specimen? this fish is mostly spotted around the head and chest area ! i think the true Berdmorei is a fully spotted fish , [similar to Beauforti] visually this fish to me looks closer to Helodes [colour ,and pattern wise] as far as temprement goes , i think a lot has to do with tank layout , i keep mine with Y.Caudipunctata, some Garras , and four rather spirited barb like fish [Scaphognathops sp/] these seem to be the tank bosses ! the tank is quite loach friendly i.e. lots of hiding places [blind spots] i have 8 of these Berdmorei's 3 females and 5 males , they get on fine , iv'e noticed that the females are quite mild mannered ,if they stray into one of the males territory ,they seem to be able to diffuse his aggresion by turning sideways , showing their plumpness , this seems to stop the male's charging at them ! has anyone here observed this ?
Whilst i'm on the Berdmorei subject in another tank i have 4 of the fully spotted ones , only small yet about 75mm's they are currantly sharing with a large groupof small B.Striata, so far no problems , again though lots of hidey holes .