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Found this today............
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:28 pm
by Martin Thoene
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:36 pm
by Emma Turner
Drool indeed!!!
Some really stunning specimens there.
I'm pretty sure I might have posted that PFK article on here earlier in the year.
Still interesting reading for those who haven't seen it before though.
Emma
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:40 pm
by Jim Powers
The first link was cool!!
I recognize one of Ken Child's pics.
The second link makes me, on one hand, want to screan "NOooooooooooooooooooo". But, on the other hand, its nice to see this stuff being sorted out.
But what about that book I keep hearing about?
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:21 pm
by TammyLiz
I don't know if I've missed something obvious or not, but I don't think I've ever seen a picture of what was labeled Botia reevesae. What a beautiful fish!
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:36 pm
by Martin Thoene
Neither have I. My jaw totally dropped when I saw that. Simply beautiful.
It's a
Sinobotia :
http://filaman.ifm-geomar.de/Summary/Sp ... p?id=46127
Martin.
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:42 pm
by mikev
The dream fish, without doubts....
(Would you give up your clowns for it?
)
Not too large to keep...
The problem is the locale, it is quite far from Guandong where most Chinese collection occurs.
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:44 pm
by Emma Turner
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:26 pm
by Martin Thoene
Just checking you were paying attention Em
Martin.
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:55 pm
by Mark in Vancouver
I'd even go for, if not a subfamily, a supergenus - as if you could... Y. sidthimunki and Y. nigrolineata seem adequately different - and similar - to class them on their own, IMO. Certainly not in the Yasukikotakia group, which always seemed couterintuitive.
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:33 am
by Graeme Robson
Very nice!!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:14 am
by Mad Duff
my poor keyboard is going to have to be replaced soon with one with a built in drool guard (patent idea - Drool Guard - A must have for all Loachaholics and LOL users
)
At least Sinibotia will be easier to pronounce than Yashuhikotakia
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:47 am
by helen nightingale
At least Sinibotia will be easier to pronounce than Yashuhikotakia
and to spell
does anyone have that paper quoted on the PFK article?
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:15 am
by Martin Thoene
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:21 am
by Martin Thoene
Mark in Vancouver wrote:I'd even go for, if not a subfamily, a supergenus - as if you could... Y. sidthimunki and Y. nigrolineata seem adequately different - and similar - to class them on their own, IMO. Certainly not in the Yasukikotakia group, which always seemed couterintuitive.
Nice to know that I'm not the only one who thinks that. When Kottelat did the revision, sids and nigs just didn't "fit" with
modesta as far as I was concerned. They don't fit as
Sinibotia either (GOT IT RIGHT EMMA!) as far as I'm concerned.
They'll probably end up as
Microsiniyasuhikotakia oe something equally tongue-twisting.
I've just E-mailed the originator of the loach pictures as it says there to contact him/her if you want to use the pictures. I've also asked about the golden loaches as it appears from the arrangement that they're leucistic versions of the regular coloured species above each.
Martin.
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:51 pm
by NancyD
Wow, the S. reevesae is amazing! I've only seen the NAME a couple times.
I've been resisting learning to spell yasuhikotakia (!?) for a while now but I agree that sinibotia (got it !) doesn't seem right either. Microbotia? Cutibotia?
