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Two new loaches

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:13 pm
by Frank M. Greco
These came in from Thailand as "Botia Mountain Loach". Well, they are not Botias! Any ideas?

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They also had something called a Botia Mountain Loach Black, but that was not shipped.

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:22 pm
by Graeme Robson
They look like the true Tuberoschistura specimens!! :shock:

Imagine the above loach as a adult Rosy loach but Tuberoschistura arakanensis may be a Synonym for Tuberoschistura baenzigeri (Kottelat, 1983) :?:

This could be a Tuberoschistura baenzigeri.

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:46 pm
by Graeme Robson
Pickled specimens aren't the same.....

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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:50 pm
by Frank M. Greco
Graeme Robson wrote:They look like the true Tuberoschistura specimens!! :shock:
Something I should get more of, I assume?
This could be a Tuberoschistura baenzigeri.
Can't find any pics of this species.

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:52 pm
by Jim Powers
Here are some other suggestions:
Nemacheilus pallidus
http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php?t=2939

Nemacheilus masyai
http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php?t=3235

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:55 pm
by Frank M. Greco
The spotting along the sides seems to be different.

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:56 pm
by Graeme Robson
Size of specimens please.

Interesting.

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:00 pm
by Frank M. Greco
Jim Powers wrote:Here are some another suggestions:
Nemacheilus pallidus
http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php?t=2939
The dorsal marking appear to be more defined than in the specimen I have.
Could be. I need to see what mine look like when they color up.

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:08 pm
by Frank M. Greco
Graeme Robson wrote:Size of specimens please.

Interesting.
About 2.5" or so.

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:11 pm
by Martin Thoene
Looks like N. pallidus to me. Saddles are narrower than the gaps between.

Martin.

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:12 pm
by mikev
Frank M. Greco wrote:
Graeme Robson wrote:Size of specimens please.

Interesting.
About 2.5" or so.
Probably this is an argument toward Nem.. species, with color faded post-shipping as is quite common. What about the barbels? Are they as long as with pallidus/masyai ???

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:20 pm
by Frank M. Greco
mikev wrote: What about the barbels? Are they as long as with pallidus/masyai ???


I'll need to get a closeup of the head to know for sure.