Loaches Online Forum

Evening all I saw Pangio anguillaris on a stock list of an lfs, so I’m doing a little research, as I’d quite like some. Comparing the profiles on here with the one on fish base, I noticed there is a difference in the recommended ph. Fish base recommends a ph of between 5 – 6 where as 6 – 7 is recommended on here. So if you have experience of this species could you let me know what sort of conditions you keep them in.

Mine have been living for ages in regular Toronto tap-water @ around pH 7.6. I don't really see much of them because they're now in a heavily planted 120. There always out in the evenings after lights out and in the early morning before it gets too light.

It's quite likely that Fishbase's figures are from a specimen collection point. The species probably does live with water of that kind of acidity. Although mine seem very happy, I would not keep them in higher pH conditions than this.

Martin.

No problems here with keeping them in @ PH of 7.2

Cheers folks that's great news. An e-mail has already been sent to see whether they still have them in stock so here's hoping. As matter of interest how common are these loaches?

If you'd asked me "how common" 3 years or so ago, I would have said really rare because I had never seen any before. Now, I guess a "spasmodic" import would be a better reply.
Emma can maybe give insight into how often they appear on exporter's lists.

Martin.

On certain lists, this species appears weekly these days, so I wouldn't say they are hard to source. It depends on the shops willingness to stock them I guess. Nevertheless, they are a lovely species, and ours at the shop come out in large numbers during the evenings (which we see whenever working late).

Emma

Finding the Pangio myersi seems to be a 'rare' find nowadays. Funny how these where common as muck 10 yrs ago.

Graeme Robson wrote:Finding the Pangio myersi seems to be a 'rare' find nowadays. Funny how these where common as muck 10 yrs ago.

Definitely. Whenever I see P. myersi on a list I get all excited, then P. semicinctus actually turn up. These are still nice fish, but I'd really like to get some 'genuine myersi' in again some day.

Same here, Emma.

Well e-mails were sent, their stock confirmed, great I say I’ll be up on my day off to collect them. Well unfortunately (only because I already have some) they turned out to be Panda Khulie loaches, still being sold under the common name of golden khulie loach.
It wasn’t a completely wasted afternoon though, as on my way home I had a strange urge to go into a shop I wouldn’t usually go in as they specialise mainly in marine fish, only stocking pretty standard fresh water fish. So imaging my surprise to see in a unlabeled tank, loads of hill streams two possibly three different species. If you know how hard I’ve looked for someone in a reasonable distance stocking hill streams you’ll know how over the moon I am.
I managed to get myself some of which I’m quite sure are Sinogastromyzon wui & possibly Beaufortia kweichowensis but I’m not sure on the second, I’ll post some pictures to confirm their id when they’ve settled a little.

Cool! It's nice to have a suprise find like that.

Martin.

Excellent!!

Looking forward to the pictures.

Here's a picture of the fish i'm not sure of, it does get a little darker but seems a little stressed having been chased by the other.

Looking a little more like it's self, so can anybody help with the Id please

Beaufortia leveretti.

Is this a lone specimen?