What the heck is this?

Frank M. Greco · Post by **Frank M. Greco** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:35 pm

I got this pic from one of my suppliers. This fish comes out of Sulawesi, from a stream that is about 245 feet about sea level. Any ideas?

mikev · Post by **mikev** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:53 pm

Seems quite similar to (except for the origin)
Latin: Balitora brucei (nee Homaloptera Brucei)
English: Stone Loach,
Graemish: I wants

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:26 pm

NOTHING like Balitora brucei

http://community.loaches.com/species-in ... ora-brucei

Where's the pelvic fins?

Needs some investigation..............

Martin.

TammyLiz · Post by **TammyLiz** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:33 pm

To me it looks like those little red bits under the pectoral fins might be pelvic fins.

Look how high up on the head the eyes are. I wonder what it would look like from the side.

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:55 pm

Fishbase lists 1095 freshwater fish species for Indonesia. You can't get Sulawesi specifically. I do not believe this is a Balitorid at all and TammyLiz, I think you're quite correct that those are the pelvic fins.

That general layout (and i think I'm seeing two Dorsal fins) suggests a Skulpin to me (Cottidae), but I can't see any Cottidae listed for Indonesia Freshwater???

Martin.

Mark in Vancouver · Post by **Mark in Vancouver** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:56 am

This is not an Anammia? Certainly looks loachish to me.

Mad Duff · Post by **Mad Duff** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:40 am

For me the fact that the pelvic fins are directly under the pectoral fins and the double dorsal fins would point to a member of the Gobidae family.

The pectoral fins do look very Loachy (Homaloptera) shaped but I think to be honest it could be some sort of goby.

I did find a couple of bits on the internet with asian freshwater fish and gobies included, no definate id though

http://www.m-net.ne.jp/~yokoo/fish.htm
http://homepage2.nifty.com/PhD-mukai/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/rasbora2004/goby.html
Homepage for above
http://www.geocities.com/kuchingensis/index.html

Frank M. Greco · Post by **Frank M. Greco** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:28 pm

Mad Duff wrote:For me the fact that the pelvic fins are directly under the pectoral fins and the double dorsal fins would point to a member of the Gobidae family.

You are absolutly correct! It's not a loach at all, but rather a goby pretending to be a loach. Most likely, it's Rhyacichthys aspro.

Mad Duff · Post by **Mad Duff** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:57 pm

I suppose its not called the Loach Goby for nothing

It certainly is a nice looking fish.

Jim Powers · Post by **Jim Powers** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:59 pm

Interesting looking fish. I think I've seen pics of this somewhere, but can't remember where.
I guess this is an example of convergent evolution (I think that's what its called)

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:37 pm

Nice interesting looking thingie me jig!

I wants!

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:03 pm

Did you import any of these, Frank?

Emma

Frank M. Greco · Post by **Frank M. Greco** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:02 pm

Emma Turner wrote:Did you import any of these, Frank?

Emma

Emma, I am going to import a number of them, along with some other gobies and shrimp from Sulawesi.

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:21 am

Lovely, we look forward to seeing your photographs!

Emma

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