10g. stocking question

brett_fishman · Post by **brett_fishman** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:11 pm

hi,
i have a 10g. tank with 2 yoyos and a platy (see my specs in my signature)

this tank has been running for 7 years, as of january '07 and it is well established

i was going to pick up 2-3 more yoyos since they like being in groups

the two i have right now are about 1.5" each (around 4 cm) and have plump little bellies, i've had them for the last 9-10 months with no complications at all.

i know they grow to around 6.5", but pretty slowly, i am going to get a 29g. set up within the next year, and if they get too big for the 10, i will transfer them over.

thanks,
brett.

also, will yoyos and angelfish get along? aside from water flow though, will the loaches pick on the angels? (for the 29g.)

sophie · Post by **sophie** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:58 pm

the short answer is, they're already too big for the 10

they need lots of room, and just because they're still alive it doesn;t necessarily mean that you're giving them a good life, I'm sorry. If you've had them 9-10 months and they're only an inch and a half long, that's not good, they should be bigger than that.

Please, don't get any more until you have a larger tank. even 29 gallons wouldn't be recommended by many people here for yoyos. Mine are in a 39, and I wish it was a lot bigger. Apart from anything else, a tank as tiny as yours wouldn't be predictably stable with four yoyos in it.

please do get a bigger tank - it's worth it, they're great fish but they do deserve to be looked after properly. they need room to swim.

brett_fishman · Post by **brett_fishman** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:01 pm

ok, i understand..and i'll wait.

-brett.

HERES a picture of the tank i just took. I'll take some pics of the yoyos for you right now (i know how crazy you all are for loach pics!!)

HERES another tank pic.
and 4 loach pics:
1
2
3
4 Sorry for the dark pics, i forgot how to take good, light pictures (like #4, but its not in focus..

)

-brett.

brett_fishman · Post by **brett_fishman** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:37 pm

sophie wrote:If you've had them 9-10 months and they're only an inch and a half long, that's not good, they should be bigger than that.

they were around 1" when i got them, i knew they were too small, but i was assurred they were quarentined for 3 weeks prior to being put on sale. and they have been healthy and VERY active ever since..so active infact, it's impossible to get a focussed, good pic of them!!

sophie wrote:they need room to swim.

i also realize that they will grow too big, so therefore i'm going for a bigger tank.

speaking of which, i havent bought the tank yet, so should i just go for a 45g. instead of a 29?

-brett.

mikev · Post by **mikev** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:55 pm

Cute little yoyo's.

One thing you should know: yoyo's are one of the fastest growing loaches.

I bought mine at a little less than 1" back in January, they are now between 3" and 4", and -- the real bad news -- they reached 2.5" within the first three months.

A 2.5" yoyo is certainly not suitable for 10g, and even a 29g is not really sufficient for their activities. I kept them originally in a 29g, and they are MUCH happier now in a 125g. In the 29g, at 1" they were happy, at 3" they were crowded.

Consider something like a 55g (or 75g) as a suitable tank, there you can have a sufficient number of happy yoyo's and perhaps few other loaches as well.

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:49 pm

Brett, I'm surprised with your postings here. You know the correct keepings of these Loaches.

Aden will be most upset your attitude. And many others who have given you correct information in the past.

You know, of where i speak.

brett_fishman · Post by **brett_fishman** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:01 pm

i know graeme..i just think i like them a little too much...

can someone post up the dimensions (L x D x W) for:
29g.
45g.
55g.

i'm looking into the 45 more than the 55 as the distance from front to back is greater, i dont think that 55s are that 'deep' (front to back)

i will wait until i get a new tank up and running until i get more fishies.

sorry if i offended anyone,
brett.

mikev · Post by **mikev** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:11 pm

Here:

All std sizes

55g is a considerably better choice for loaches. You don't need the extra height of the 45g.

brett_fishman · Post by **brett_fishman** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:22 pm

alright, i wasnt sure about the height, i just thought the 45 was the same height, but deeper

i hear the 55 is hard to aquascape in, since its so thin..

thanks for the link,
brett.

shari2 · Post by **shari2** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:20 pm

I found my 55 gave me more options for aquascaping than the 40 or so bowfront I currently run...the extra length makes a difference more than the width, for me.

brett_fishman · Post by **brett_fishman** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:47 pm

alrighty, well i just measured my desk in my room, its 45", the 55g is 58"...

but then again, even if my desk was big enough, i'd have to take apart my 10g. and get rid of the fish for 3 or so months...I'D DIE!!

so yea, i'd need to put a STRONG table in my basement (drywalled, sub-ceiling and carpeted with alot of power outlets) if i got a 55g.

no problem with money, but im going to have to get help with equipment lists..
so:
-tank [duh, glass 55g.]
-filters [2 aquaclear 70s (300 gph each -- 600 gph together)]
*maybe powerheads [1 aquaclear 50 PH (50 gph)]
-heaters [2 tronic 150w submersibles]
-lights [flourescent whatever]
-gravel [60 lbs of small, natural gravel (i dont like sand)]
-decor / plants / rocks
-FISHIES!!

ok, what else?

thanks,
brett.

EDIT: i've made some equipment decisions

worldrallynut · Post by **worldrallynut** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:30 pm

in My 55 gal, i stacked lots and lots and lots of slate at angles to form all sorts of shapes and caves. If a piece is too big for what u want to do with it, just break it

.

brett_fishman · Post by **brett_fishman** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:32 pm

^^good idea, but dont forget to file the sharp edges and clean off all the powder!

-brett.

mikev · Post by **mikev** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:27 am

Coming soon: 55g

Before making the decision, compare 55g vs 75g.

brett_fishman · Post by **brett_fishman** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:34 am

sorry, but no way im going to be alowed to get a 75g...haha

believe me, i would if i could!!

-brett.

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