Van Man Again!

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:45 pm

( Many years ago I was UK Chairman of the National Street Van Association, when Custom Vans were a big thing).

Today though, I became a Vanmanenia owner for the first time, courtesy of Harold.

A trio of Vanmanenia hainenensis:

Going to need some feeding up, but they ate Bloodworm shortly after introduction.

Then he tells me that he has a supplier listing all sorts of mainland Chinese fish, so I've sent him links to Mr Tree's site and various cool Chinese Loaches from LOL. He said they had several Leptobotia species listed.

These Vannies are around 3" long and in good condition. He also got in what might possibly be Barbatula toni.

Martin.

Mark in Vancouver · Post by **Mark in Vancouver** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:51 pm

Sensational! More photos - MORE!

brett_fishman · Post by **brett_fishman** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:54 pm

neat-o martin!
i like them!

-brett.

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:56 pm

I've already updated the profile with these new pics Mark. I'll take some more once they put on some weight.

Martin.

mikev · Post by **mikev** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:02 pm

This is the fish that got me interested in Hillstreams... Gastros and Beaufortias were resistible, but not Vannies...

I'm sure you'll have fun with them.

Jim Powers · Post by **Jim Powers** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:09 pm

Congratulations!!! Very cool fish. You do know how envious I am, don't you.

I want to know EVERYTHING about them.
I wonder if they will breed as readily as L. disparis? Lets hope so.

By what name were they listed?

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:33 pm

Not 100% sure Jim, but Harold mentioned Balitora brucei and I said "No way"

I've told him what they are now for sure though.

Martin.

mikev · Post by **mikev** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:47 am

Jim Powers wrote:By what name were they listed?

The name I've seen used before was "HK plecos" with "HK Otos" used by the same supplier for Chenis (?!).
(I'm assuming it is the same species I have, it certainly looks this way).

Of course, this fish is most likely not V. hainenensis, there are other, more likely, candidates.

Mad Duff · Post by **Mad Duff** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:12 am

Lovely fish Martin

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:59 am

Wonderful additions Martin!!

You jammy bugger....hehehe

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:41 am

Beautiful additions, Martin!

But they look very similar to the Vietnamese fish HH identified for me a while back as being an Annamia sp.

Emma

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:42 pm

I found the original thread for comparison with your latest additions, Martin (had to go in and change the old coppermine url's to the new one though). See what you all think.

http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php?t=294

Emma

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:21 pm

Nah....these are clearly different..........

The Annamia species has visible scale keels which these do not. All your pictures show the fish with depressed dorsals and closed tails when at rest. These guys always park with the fins spread.

Martin.

shari2 · Post by **shari2** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:34 pm

Where are the scale keels again, Martin? Do you have any shots of them?

I was wondering if the differences between Emma's and yours might have something to due with the fact that hers came in severely stressed whereas yours seem to be in much better shape.

Emma, do you have any pics of yours after they'd acclimated and put on weight?

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:41 pm

Emma's fish........

Mine.....see how the fish is much smoother, also less lateraly compressed.

Martin.

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