Butterfly Hillstream Loach kept in coldwater?

Corbin · Post by **Corbin** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:30 pm

I have a weather loach tank and i was wondering if its possible to keep a hillstream loach in it? would it be to cold? im not sure on the exact temp right now, but it was anywhere between 65-70F, but that was in the fall so i guess it would be alot colder now.

chris1932 · Post by **chris1932** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:45 pm

How is this tank set up? You need to have quite a bit of flow for almost any Hillstream loach. What kind of Hillstream are you thinking of getting? I keep my river tank at around 70-74. I really need some more in depth information before arbitrarily making a suggestion.

Corbin · Post by **Corbin** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:03 pm

well its a 33gal right now. been thinking about upgrading it since i have quite a few weather loaches and im gonna breed them in the summer. probley gonna get a 55+. you can see in my sig whats in there. there isnt much flow the way i have it set up but that can eazily be changed in 3 seconds. just let me know what other info you need

p.s. i really like the Butterfly Hillstream.

brett_fishman · Post by **brett_fishman** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:09 pm

not sure about the firebelly toads, but i know that weather loaches like flow in their tanks via a powerhead..

hillstreams demand high flow and aeration in the tank..

the butterfly hillstream you speak of is probably the Beaufortia Kweichowensis...read up!!

are you sure that the toads are 100% safe to keep with aquarium fish?? i know that they produce toxins to detour predators, i'd think that they'd poison the water they are in as well..but i dont know..

-brett.

Corbin · Post by **Corbin** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:17 pm

no its fine they have all been living together for over 2 years.

Corbin · Post by **Corbin** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:19 pm

here is my tank i posted on my local forum
http://www.bcaquaria.com/forum/showthread.php?t=245

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:53 pm

Corbin, welcome to Loaches Online.

That 33 gallon set up like that is totally unsuitable for the weather loaches you have. They need vastly more water available than that.

See the profile here: http://www.loaches.com/species-index/we ... licaudatus

Also, even with current, it is no good for hillstream loaches. Read here and you'll see why: http://www.loaches.com/articles/hillstr ... -fast-lane

The tank is great I'm sure for the Fire-belly toads, but it is not fair to keep fish in such a setup unless they are really small ones.

You need a minimum 4 foot tank, with full water depth available for the weather loaches and the sort of current that hillstreams require would be too much for the weather fish.

Martin.

brett_fishman · Post by **brett_fishman** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:45 pm

corbin,
thanks for that link, i've been looking for a local fish forum!!

i will have to agree with martin on this, your tank is far too shallow for 5 weather loaches...im not sure even a FULL 33 gallon would be large enough to house 5 weather loaches and 2 toads!!

-brett.

Corbin · Post by **Corbin** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:58 pm

yeah i know, it is to small

i got the other 4 loaches in a really great deal so i couldnt say no, i was orginaly just 1. im gonna make it a full aquatic as soon as i get a stand that can hold the weight, but the water parameters are totaly fine and the fish show no stress and seem to be enjoying it, 3 of the loaches are only 2 inches the other 2 are about 4. the tank is 36" (3feet) i could line up atleast 10+ of the loaches from one end to another, thats how small they are.

mistergreen · Post by **mistergreen** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:40 am

Corbin, did you say that your plants are java ferns? they can survive out of water?

Corbin · Post by **Corbin** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:03 am

mistergreen wrote:Corbin, did you say that your plants are java ferns? they can survive out of water?

yes they can survive out of water as long as the roots are in the water, they grow HUGE Quick out of water here is a pic of my smallest java fern

mistergreen · Post by **mistergreen** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:02 am

hmmm.. i ask because I have java ferns here that have grown large enough to stick out of the water but the part that sticks out dries up.

Corbin · Post by **Corbin** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:10 am

well my tank is almost completly sealed so the humidity builds up so it stays moist and there is no heat in the tank what so ever.

mistergreen · Post by **mistergreen** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:33 am

interesting.. so it's pretty humid in there.
java ferns are slow growing but mine is a monster. It's over 14 inches tall. it's also 6-7 years old.

Corbin · Post by **Corbin** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:16 am

the ones i have are 12inchs tall and the main one is 2 years old but the rest are pretty new but grow quick, i think its cuz its pretty much sealed so animals use the o2 and release co2 for the plants. i started from 1 4x4 java fern now i have 4 tanks filled with it & it all came from this tank

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