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Hell Fire
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New Tank (again lol)

Post by Hell Fire » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:48 pm

Yet again im adding another tank to my collection of 4 lol. BUt ill be selling the one my loaches etc are currently in as wont have room for that and the new one. Now heres the dilema and possibly the solution. My zebra loaches are quite tame and dont stress iver anything it seems so am not too worried about them being moved BUT i want this new tank in the place of the old tank and up and running. If i just bag all the fish or bucket them, transfure ALL the substrate, water, decors, filter, heater etc over to the new tank do you think ill be ok to out them in that same day? The over the next few days i can add the extra water to make up the new added gallons.
Let me know. Ill be getting the new tank in the next 2 weeks.
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Post by fishnose » Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:02 pm

I had to do a similar kind of thing and was partially successful, lost a catfish...it should work but you might want not want to add ALL the fish at once, maybe 3/4 of them.

I might be interested in this old tank you are selling...How large is the tank the loaches are moving out of? About how much ish would it be sold for?

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Post by MTS » Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:12 pm

Should be ok to move in a day. One thing to consider is siphoning most of the water before disturbing the substrate since a lot of particulates will get in the water once you disturb it. You might want to put new substrate in the new tank because of this. There are some helpful bacteria in the substrate but most of your cycling will come from the media in your filter. Just make sure not to let the filter media dry out and your new tank should be as good as cycled.

You could also get a large plastic Rubbermade type bin that will accomadate your fish with tank water and temporarily install your filter and heater on the bin while you take down and set up the new tank. Just be very careful your fish don't jump out.

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Post by Hell Fire » Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:15 pm

Hmm well ill have to be carefull. I have 4 tanks as said so guess i could put the guppies or loaches etc in with the other tanks for a while. the current tanks already sold im sorry to say. A mate of mines whipped it up lol!! Its a 30gal one.
I gave him 1st refusal as he asked and desperatly needs to re house some fish.
Sorry :( I live on Dartmoor anyway Uk so doubt youd live near enough to get it anyway. no one does lol!

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Post by Hell Fire » Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:19 pm

I have several buckets specificaly for the aquarium so was going to use them rather than bag them and float them in my other aquariums as this will be more stressfull im sure. Will have to cover them and bung my heaters in the buckets.
I will need to add more substrate anyway as the tank bottoms so much larger but was going to 1st syphon part of the water into the new tank and buckets at least enough so it can be moved and put my filter in with that to keep it wet and the good back alive. Then put the new tank on the stand. Put the water into the new tank. Then take all the old substrate etc out and put it all in the new tank.
My tanks very healethy and never had any desiese etc so i know all the fish are strong and should be fine i hope! the plecs the most delecate so may put him in the other tank for now but trying to catch him with decor in is a nightmare!!

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Post by MTS » Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:44 pm

Don't plan on moving tanks with water in them. They are awkward and heavy. I don't want you to have an accident.

Capture as much water as you can in buckets and plan on cleaning the substrate you remove from the tank before puting it in the larger tank. You will be surprised at how many particles it will stir up when you move it. As long as the extra water you put in the new tank is treated and the right temperature, it should be similar enough to the old tank's water that it won't be major acclimation for your fish.

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Post by Oldfish » Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:43 pm

[quote="Hell Fire"]"I have several buckets specificaly for the aquarium so was going to use them rather than bag them and float them in my other aquariums as this will be more stressfull im sure. Will have to cover them and bung my heaters in the buckets.
I will need to add more substrate anyway as the tank bottoms so much larger but was going to 1st syphon part of the water into the new tank and buckets at least enough so it can be moved and put my filter in with that to keep it wet and the good back alive" You should get a new 50 gal plastic trash can and put in all the water,an airstone, the filter,heater,and fish. Put your substrate in your buckets.Then setup your new tank.Your fish should be fine in their temporary tank.

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Post by Hell Fire » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:57 pm

What a brilliant idear oldfish!!! thats fantastic!! Ill be off to get a big bin or similar when the tank comes. Thanks so much. I cant wait!!! :lol: But am a bit worried still and aprehensive. Just dont want to loose any fish. i brought one of my zebras back from deaths door a while back and now hes fighting fit and the dominant biggest fattest one i have! Still with a bit of his tail missing bless him but healed up well and is slowly growing back.And MTS thanks for the concen of my safety, i apreachiate it. Was hopeing to move it with just the substrate in and a little bit of water up to the substrate level and wouldnt be able to suck it out.
But now as said i have to wash the substrate. Isnt it best to leave a bit unwashed for the bactiria? I know the filters the main thing but the gravels good also. I know it will really cloud the water and the bits will be bad when moved, prob clog up the filter actually.
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Post by MTS » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:14 pm

I agree, it would be better not to wash all of it. Just don't let it dry out before the transfer. I would still wash most of it or you might be transfering bad stuff too. May as well start out as clean as possible. Even if you vacuum often, the dirt sifts down to the lowest level of your substrate and gets trapped there.

Sometimes pockets of bad bacteria can get trapped there but most likely, if you have vacuumed regularly, the dirt is harmless to the fish. Its just nice to put up a new aquarium that looks clean to start.

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Post by Hell Fire » Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:39 pm

Ok will do that then. Ill wash it all out at put it in along with water asap so not to dry it out. I do vac very reguly as my loach do kick a lot about and the plec in with thems a dirty bugger lol!
Ill keep this post updated. Hopefully the tank should be here the weekend so will be doing it sometime then. Depends if i get time as in for a op at the hospital Monday!! May do it why im re cooping if im up to it. Cheer me up a lot :P
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Post by Hell Fire » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:48 pm

Well its done!!!!! Im shatterd lol! all went well, my father was good enough to come help as well as my chap. They diont seem to of stressed at all, all happy and have eaten well just now. So thanks very much for the advice. No losses yet and hope it will stay that way!!!!
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Post by crazy loaches » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:13 pm

Yeah, I have used totes as well for temporary fish homes. Used one for about 3 weeks while a modified the stand to go from a 40G to 75G tank, and get all the new equipment going. No losses, just basically moved everything including plants and driftwood into a tote. Tote was about the same gallonage as well.

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That pic (click it) shows me draining down a 40G into a tote, since the 75G was going to go in the same spot and use the same stand.

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Post by Hell Fire » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:27 pm

BLIMY!! What a job. I feel for you. Lucky mine was only 30gal to drain so not so bad. Still took a age! Ill post some pics of my loach soon, always have probs posting on this site.
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Post by Ippo456 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:59 pm

Python is a great helper!
I used to transfer fish from smaller tanks to larger ones the hard way: transfer old water to lots of buckets, move fish into new tank, move old water to new tank.
If you do lots of water changes & maintenance in general, I suggest you invest in a Python .. saves you lots of trouble!

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