Coppersafe: safe or not?

[bullheimer]

malachite green has copper and kills clown loaches. Coppersafe has chelated copper so... will it kill clown loaches or not? anybody know? thx

[fusQer]

i have 4 loaches with ich, 3 kubotai's and one sidthimunki. i put them in a 10g Q tank, raised temp to around 83ish, started with maracide, it didnt do anything after 5 days. switched to quick ick by aquarium products, along with every other day water changes, 83-85 degrees, and 2 doses of metronidazol, and also aquarium salt. today, which is about day 8 or 9, the 3 kubotai's show no white spots, one of them is still flashing, though. the sidthimunki is showing absolutely no response to the medication and is getting worse. so, i bought cupramine, havent used it though. cupramine is made by seachem and i dont really know the specifics other than use only 1 or 2 drops per 10 gallons at the beginning, and that it never leaves the water unless you charcoal it out or water change. i hear its extremely toxic, way more than malachite green