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Martin.

Thanks, Martin. That will add up to my references.

So, we know what owner says.
How many of you believe that this fish "just happened" and no human "intervention" was present?

Is it just me or does that long finned fella seem to not have any barbels?

crazy loaches wrote:Is it just me or does that long finned fella seem to not have any barbels?

The first photo did show barbels but the third one seems to have indeed lose its barbels.

Those are some freaks of nature.

Ded1 wrote:So, we know what owner says.
How many of you believe that this fish "just happened" and no human "intervention" was present?

Artificial selection to produce long-finned varieties of any fish takes many generations of spawnings. The only clown loach breeding on the necessary scale to do that is hormone induced by large companies. If they managed to breed that fish deliberately, don't you think there would be more of them around? That they'd want to cash in on their massive investment? Despite some of the surprising knee-jerk reactions I saw (and I really was surprised at some people), I am 99.99% certain that there was no deliberate human intervention to produce this fish. It just doesn't fit.

There are barbels...look closely..just that it is folded back..most of my clowns do that...nothing suprising

palaeodave wrote:

Ded1 wrote:So, we know what owner says.
How many of you believe that this fish "just happened" and no human "intervention" was present?

Artificial selection to produce long-finned varieties of any fish takes many generations of spawnings. The only clown loach breeding on the necessary scale to do that is hormone induced by large companies. If they managed to breed that fish deliberately, don't you think there would be more of them around? That they'd want to cash in on their massive investment? Despite some of the surprising knee-jerk reactions I saw (and I really was surprised at some people), I am 99.99% certain that there was no deliberate human intervention to produce this fish. It just doesn't fit.

I agree.

Well, my loach looks pretty normal, apart from his tail mutation. I don't think he is a victim of some intensive farming - just a really pretty boy and unique to me. All his body shape is right, he just has that little notch on his fin. I can definitely confirm that this has grown that way and has not resulted from an accident or injury - the veins run uniformly into this extra piece.

p.s Martin - thanks for posting the pic.

well not personaly but this is by far the ugly'ist clown i ever saw...

selective breeding sounds not possible since it takes time.. a freak of nature for sure but i really hope this is not becomming a toy for the trade...

The dorsal looks a bit frayed and he's quite pale but as long as the finnage doesn't interfere in his mobility, I find it interesting. Uniquely patterned loaches are cool, too.

Personally, it is disgusting.
And I still believe it is just matter of time, when they will start manipulating with some injection, to change those fins, like with gold fish.

Sure, they are hard to breed, but if buyers will like it, capitalism will find a way to change this monster into profit...just a matter of time.

midman wrote:Well, my loach looks pretty normal, apart from his tail mutation. I don't think he is a victim of some intensive farming - just a really pretty boy and unique to me. All his body shape is right, he just has that little notch on his fin. I can definitely confirm that this has grown that way and has not resulted from an accident or injury - the veins run uniformly into this extra piece.

I agree, looks very normal and just fine, just a slight irregularity that shouldnt really impact it in any way. I'd be happy to have an interesting clown like this.