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hillie loach ID help

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:45 am
by aQuagirl
hey all:)
need your loach expertise!
do these guys look healthy? (i got 3) some have diff patches of pale colors on them.. is that normal?
sorry for the crappy pics.. best i could get for now...
thanks :)

#1
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#2 (gets real pale)
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#3 (most normal looking of the 3)
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what kind are they? just want to make sure as im new to loaches...
many thanks :)

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:41 am
by Graeme Robson
Hi aQuagirl, Welcome to Loaches Online.

Your loaches look like the Beaufortia kweichowensis.

Here's a good article for there care >> http://www.loaches.com/articles/hillstr ... -fast-lane

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:37 am
by aQuagirl
thanks!
im kinda worried about their appearance.. their colors look patchy to me.. is this a bad sign or is it normal for these guys?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:18 am
by shari2
Here's a link to an article Jim Powers wrote on hillstream diseases:
http://www.loaches.com/disease-treatmen ... am-loaches

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:44 pm
by aQuagirl
ok last question, do these guys look sick? esp. the 2nd one...
im not sure whether thats normal for them as its my first time to own hillstreams... they are in a 35g with a 4-in L25 and black ghost knife...
the loaches might be sick im bit worried :(
thanks

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:25 am
by Tinman
Yes they look sick, like a slime coat issue I see in stores .One cause I see lots is low flow. What is the flow rate of your tank. You shoud be 350 gal per hour minimum in your 35.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:17 am
by Jim Powers
Unfortunately, #1 and #2 look sick to me.
Have you seen them eat?

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:13 pm
by aQuagirl
i have seen one eat, but im not sure which loach tho...
ive added an extra powerhead to the tank, so theres a strong current going on...
will this affect my other fish in the tank? :(
should i quarantine them now?

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:10 am
by aQuagirl
what should i do? i want to save the lil guys :(

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:09 am
by Jim Powers
This is why its a good idea to quarentine fish after purchasing them.
I am of the opinion that this "Patchy Disease" is not necessarily caused by just one pathogen. I can't really say that this will effect all of the fish in the tank, but it might.
If it were me and I could get Maracyn and Maracyn 2 (erythromycin and minocycline) I would start treatment of the whole tank according to directions.
Good luck!!

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:37 am
by mikev
Jim Powers wrote: I am of the opinion that this "Patchy Disease" is not necessarily caused by just one pathogen.
At least three; I know of two non-infectious causes now, both seen with specifically Beaufortia, in addition to your original case.

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:00 am
by aQuagirl
thanks...

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:46 pm
by aQuagirl
what other alternative meds can i use? aside from maracyn

thanks

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:53 pm
by Jim Powers
That's the only antibiotic that has worked for me.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:53 am
by aQuagirl
okay.
do i have to treat the whole tank? im planning to remove the 2 sick loaches to a QT will that be okay or do i now have to include the other fish and pleco in the treatment? which is a better move?
thanks