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How many kuhlis in a 36" 30 gallon?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:40 am
by loachmom
I have 9 kuhlis now in a 30 gallon tank. They are so happy. Previously they had been in the clown loach tank, and I hardly ever saw them. They stayed holed up under driftwood and coconut shells. When they did come out for food, I could tell that the current was blowing them around. ( Emma warned my about this.)

Today, they are out and about in the daytime, hunting for food, and draping over things in the tank. I can tell that they like the lower current. I have a Penguin 350 BioWheel on the tank.

Last night, I could see them by the light from another room. I saw at least seven of them swimming in the water column and doing laps. That made me smile.

So how many kuhlis can go in a 30 gallon, if I have only about ten other dither fish?

I read some other threads about this subject, and it seems that I could at least double or triple my number, but I want to be sure.


Thanks :)

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:51 am
by Graeme Robson
Which species of dither fish are we looking at loachmom? 10x1 inch specimens?

If so then a good group of 20-24 should be fine with regular water changes and maintenance.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:06 pm
by loachmom
Thanks Graeme.

I should have specified what size fish. I was thinking of going with cherry barbs which are larger than 1". So maybe I should just increase my kuhli group to about a dozen.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:15 pm
by Graeme Robson
You could still keep a group of 16-18 Pangio's with the Cherry's. :D

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:31 pm
by loachmom
That's good news!! :D

Now, one more question....what if I wanted to add some cherry shrimp to the tank? Would that change things?

I think shrimp would be fun to watch.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:36 pm
by Graeme Robson
Revised with 14 Pangio's, 10 Cherry's barbs, 5 Cherry shrimp.

That should look a wonderful tank. :D

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:41 pm
by loachmom
Thanks Graeme, again. :D

That should be perfect!!

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:40 pm
by zmo63
good luck keeping only 5 cherry shrimp! We started out with 3, and a couple of months later we're up to approximately 40-50. They breed faster than we can farm them out to other tanks.

Your cherry barbs might eat the babies though. We have ours with kuhlis and hatchetfish - no one's aggressive enough.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:49 pm
by loachmom
Thanks zmo63,

That's something to think about. Maybe I could work a deal with a local pet shop that would like to buy my excess shrimp. :D

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:40 pm
by Martin Thoene
If you can produce good, really red shrimp I doubt you'll have much trouble finding takers.

I miss my little guys :(

Image

Martin.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:34 pm
by piggy4
Hi Loachmom, personally i'd leave the dither fish out ! whilst the coolie's are alone , or with other inoffensive loaches , i.e. Lepidocephalus's, or perhaps some of the more placid Nemachelius, you will see more of them .

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:55 pm
by loachmom
piggy4 wrote:Hi Loachmom, personally i'd leave the dither fish out ! whilst the coolie's are alone , or with other inoffensive loaches , i.e. Lepidocephalus's, or perhaps some of the more placid Nemachelius, you will see more of them .
You know, piggy4, today I removed the Zebra Danios from the tank because they were hogging all the food, even the bottom feeder pellets. I just said to the kids that maybe we should just have shrimp and kuhlis in the tank. Thanks for your input. :D Already the kuhlis are swimming up the corners and doing laps. I think they are happy to see the danios gone. That's the first that we've seen them swimming like that in broad daylight.



Martin, your shrimp picture is beautiful. I can hardly wait to get my own. Thanks. :D

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:14 pm
by Rubix
them zebra danios are greedy, good move ousting them :)

ive got a 36 inch 30 gallon right here next to me with nothing currently in it yet. ive got the kuhli itch, now i just need to locate some 8)

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:27 pm
by loachmom
Rubix wrote:them zebra danios are greedy, good move ousting them :)

ive got a 36 inch 30 gallon right here next to me with nothing currently in it yet. ive got the kuhli itch, now i just need to locate some 8)
I hope you find some, Rubix. You won't regret it. They are a fun loach to watch! :)

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:04 am
by piggy4
Loachmom, at the moment i've got a 2ft tank waiting for a nice group of Coolie's, i'm using peat in the filter, hopfully creating a nice soft water enviroment , will see how this works !