Levimasole

[Emma Turner]

What form would the oxytetracycline come in for use in a fish tank? Presumably not the tablets that teenagers take for acne!

Hi David,

The oxytetracycline should be in liquid form. (Larger fish specimens can be injected with it).

Dosing can be quite ambiguous, so seek the vets advice, or trawl through books/the internet to find a level you're happy with using.

Good luck,

Emma

[shari2]

Hey paleodave,

anticipating the next question

dosage for two different forms of oxytetratcycline below:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:O7 ... =clnk&cd=1

Oxytetracycline: 10 - 50 mg/L = 37.85 - 189.25 mg/gallon
Oxytetracycline Hydrochloride: 12 - 60 mg/L = 48 - 240 mg/gallon

another one found here:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:8F ... =clnk&cd=6

OXYTETRACYCLINE HYDROCHLORIDE:
USE: Gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria. Marine ulcer disease, cold water disease, bacterial hemorrhagic septicemia and mouth fungus.
DOSAGE: 250- 500 mg teaspoon per 20 gallons every 24 hours with a 50% water change before each treatment. This antibiotic is best used mixed in with food, especially if your ph is above 8.0..

[palaeodave]

You wonderful, wonderful people (with the same 'especially' list as before)! I love this forum. I will treat (well, force upon) you all to more pictures of my fish once I've gotten this sorted out.

My apologies to Mad Duff for hijakking his thread! I should have started a new thread for this but I really did think I was asking after levimasole!

[shari2]

The fish you were talking about with the bones visible in his head probably would benefit from a levamisole treatment imo. You just happened to have another issue too.

And, yes, please 'force' more pics upon us. We won't mind a bit

[mikev]

Hi Mike thanks for the info, I have had the sid's for probably around 5 months now and in that time I have only lost a couple of neon's which I was given and to be honest they weren't 100% when I got them so I wasn't shocked to lose them.

I will probably do a couple more doses just to be on the safe side .

Ahh. 5 months changes things. It is more than enough time for any direct roundworm to wipe out the tank (example: capillari timing is about 3 weeks to adulthood). I think base the decision on this: if you also positive that the infection did not come in during the last two months (for example, no new fish was added during this time or what was added was nearly certainly clean) then ignore what I said (but watch for the reoccurrance of symptoms)
BTW, the worms you found may not even come from the sids...if it is a planted tank, you may have non-parasitic worms there too...

[KhuliKhilla]

hello everyone, thansk for the aadvice on the nasty heamorrhage disease. im palaeodave's wonderful housemate (see peacock goby thread )

seems one of my angels has early signs of the illness too. which is odd seeing as its in a different tank. the only thing i can think of is that the peat that was added to both tansk recently set things off. other than that a simultaneous flare up both is odd.

anyway... thansk muchly, my baby wont die hopefully.

lee

[shari2]

There are times when angels getting in breeding mode, or becoming agressive over something will get a distinctly fine red line across their dorsal ridges. It will come and go spontaneously with their mood. (angels can be a pain sometimes!)

So, before you treat for any red lines, look for behavioral symptoms that should also occur somewhat concurrently. Are they lethargic? Eating normally? Hiding? Are their fins planked? Coming to the front to beg for food? Has their color faded? By that I mean FADED out, not just a color change that sometimes also occurs in these fish. For instance, my silvers will sometimes lose their stripes completely when stressed (trying to catch them in the net), but when they are feeling feisty they develop dark circles around both eyes and the black becomes MUCH more pronounced.

In general, if there appears to be no other symptomology, I'd do water changes, observe, and see if the line comes and goes before treating a whole tank of angelfish.

Sorry if this is confusing. Angelfish ... gotta love em!

[KhuliKhilla]

yeah, well its only my big butch male angel with the small faded patch of red. he is often mating with one of the ladies.

they are still gutsy swines who eat all they can. im thinking that mine are probablly fine. will keep an eye on them and treat them to some new water tomorrow



lee

[palaeodave]

Actually Lee all three of your angels have the mark in exactly the same spot. Just had a look. Now come home and make dinner, me and the lady are getting hungry

[KhuliKhilla]

one of them has a patch there, but thats the colour of the fish. only Mr Angel has the red patch.

im cooking for 3??? wash the wok then and geet the mince out the freezer.

[palaeodave]

Right, so after much phoning around I've been told I have to take all the infected fish to the vet otherwise they can't sell me anything....its the law. So I have to catch two adult Botias and two angels in a semi-planted tank. And if they're already ill the stress could kill them. I asked if taking along photographs would do, but they said no. I'm gonna go round and beg tomorrow, I'm too tired today.

Is this the same for levimasole? Has anyone managed to get it without taking your fish in?

[KhuliKhilla]

holy s***. so we also need to catch Mr Angel too and his harem? that sounds like far too much trouble and bloody dangerous for the fish too.

[Mad Duff]

I just rang our vet and asked for the levimasole, I told him what it would be used for and he gave me the price and put it behind the reception desk for me to pick up. All I can see you doing is explaining that the stress could be detremantal to the fish's health and hope they see sense.

[Emma Turner]

Right, so after much phoning around I've been told I have to take all the infected fish to the vet otherwise they can't sell me anything....its the law. So I have to catch two adult Botias and two angels in a semi-planted tank. And if they're already ill the stress could kill them. I asked if taking along photographs would do, but they said no. I'm gonna go round and beg tomorrow, I'm too tired today.

Is this the same for levimasole? Has anyone managed to get it without taking your fish in?

This isn't unusual, as vets do have to be very careful about what they prescribe (particularly in the UK where we have some of the strictest guidelines in the world when it comes to medications). However, I totally agree that it would be too stressful for the fish concerned. Ask the vets if they would be willing to do a home-visit, rather than you taking the fish to them. Some vets will do this, usually for a fee, but in this case, I'm sure it would be worth it.

By the way, in response to your earlier question, oxytetracycline will adversely affect the filter bacteria, so be sure to make provision for this.

Emma

[libingboy]

just to be sure i understand what is being discussed, are the bloody vertical line like whats seen at the base of the tail of this loach?






coz i think i see these type of markings on clowns very frequently... i may have some that are like that, need to check it up...[/img]