just seen an amazing loach

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:08 am

I've got a 'Headache' now

http://www.petfrd.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20364

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:29 am

Me too! Pass the 'Anadin Extra'!

Mike - if you read back through the thread you will see that the fish came in directly from India. This supplier only supplies native fishes. It was in with a bag full of Botia almorhae.

Emma

Mike Ophir · Post by **Mike Ophir** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:07 pm

Oh ok....wow...interesting...I don't know what to say anymore, haha.

Mike

helen nightingale · Post by **helen nightingale** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:28 pm

thank you all for scratching your heads for me! i have just clicked on the link to petfrd - thats great. thanks for asking and discussing.

i am wondering about [/i]B. birdii - the picture sort of looks like it could be right, and so far ive not seen pictures of rostrata anything like the mystery loach. i think i will do some digging around

can you get bulk boxes of e-anandin? i think we could all do with some.

is that article Polish? its a bugger we dont have any polish staff at work at the moment - they quite often speak several langauges.

it seems like this will be hard to get to the bottom of. if he snuffs it, maybe he should be pickled and then chopped up to see if we can find out that way

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:22 pm

Updated pics of Helen's mystery (possible B. birdii) loach

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Emma

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:14 pm

What a fantastic looking fella!

Jim Powers · Post by **Jim Powers** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:35 pm

What a beauty!!!
Now what is it?

sophie · Post by **sophie** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:49 pm

do you know, the more I look at this thread, the more confused I become.

Helen, the site actually belongs to Bogdan, who has contributed to LOL, so if anyone know how to get in touch?? (site is here: http://www.bocje.com/)

is b birdii basically a very very reticulated yoyo? yoyos confuse me; I've got four. two are longer and slimmer, proportionally, with silver bodies with nice clean yoyo patterns that don't go under the stomach. Two of them are more rounded, with goldy-greyish backgrounds and very reticulated patterns that do meet under the stomach. They all come from the same shipment, though whether they came direct form anywhere I don't know. The classic yoyo ones look, for wnat of a better description, more "juvenile" than the other two, but like I said, I got them all at the same time and the same size... Now thta almorhae and lochata are the same species I'd just assumed yoyos were very very variable, but the two reticulated ones I have look more like pictures of b birdii. Helen's looks like the mutant offspring of birdii and a kubotai

all Very Odd.
I think we should get in touch with Bogdan...

shari2 · Post by **shari2** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:05 pm

In my limited and somewhat truncated experience with yoyos it seemed that the females matured faster than the males in a marked way. They gained the goldy grey, reticulated and rounder shape rather quickly, while the males retained their slim shape, silver/black yoyo pattern much longer (several months passed before I noticed they even started changing).

this is just my assumption on sexing them since I actually did a post mortem on the one I thought was female and confirmed the fact definitively when I found eggs.

Mark in Vancouver · Post by **Mark in Vancouver** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:18 pm

sophie wrote:do you know, the more I look at this thread, the more confused I become.

Helen, the site actually belongs to Bogdan, who has contributed to LOL, so if anyone know how to get in touch?? (site is here: http://www.bocje.com/)

is b birdii basically a very very reticulated yoyo? yoyos confuse me; I've got four. two are longer and slimmer, proportionally, with silver bodies with nice clean yoyo patterns that don't go under the stomach. Two of them are more rounded, with goldy-greyish backgrounds and very reticulated patterns that do meet under the stomach. They all come from the same shipment, though whether they came direct form anywhere I don't know. The classic yoyo ones look, for wnat of a better description, more "juvenile" than the other two, but like I said, I got them all at the same time and the same size... Now thta almorhae and lochata are the same species I'd just assumed yoyos were very very variable, but the two reticulated ones I have look more like pictures of b birdii. Helen's looks like the mutant offspring of birdii and a kubotai

all Very Odd.
I think we should get in touch with Bogdan...

Bogdan is very knowledgable about loaches. Just very hard to reach sometimes. And I can't get past his front page on the website.

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:01 pm

More over on petfrd: http://www.petfrd.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20364

helen nightingale · Post by **helen nightingale** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:15 pm

i have found his email - the site is working at the moment! i will i understood Polish though

helen nightingale · Post by **helen nightingale** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:19 pm

i have been trying to translate Bogdan's info on B. birdii from the link that Sophie gave, using an internet translation site. it gave the site a headache too, so it gave up, but untill that point, the article seems to be talking a bit about badgers and kangaroos

the picture on petfrd that i saw the other day looks like an interesting almorhae. what do you think?

sophie · Post by **sophie** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:12 pm

Helen - don't use those electronic transltors, they are good only for a giggle.

Before I decided to give up any hope of a sensible income and began woking with children I worked for a translation agency and I can tell you that there is absolutely no way that an electronic translator can manage anything except text where all the words have only one possible meaning. You'd be better off with a good dictionary and someone who knows something about language, even if nothing about polish... There's a reason that getting things translated is expensive, and that's because it's specialist, time-consuming and difficult

are there no polish speakers here at all?

helen nightingale · Post by **helen nightingale** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:18 am

you are right, and it did give me a giggle

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