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Reclassification of loach names

Post by Mad Duff » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:02 pm

I was having a look a post on another site today that listed the new names for loaches and realised that Botia (probably isn't now :lol: ) Rostrata is missing, is it still Botia or has it changed.

This is the list I was looking at:
http://www.petfrd.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12446
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Post by mikev » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:18 pm

But the Birdi phantom is listed...

Even more interesting: from the same thread:
Nalbant, TT, 2004. Hymenphysa, Hymenophysa, Syncrossus, Chromobotia and other problems in the systematics of the Botiidae. A reply to Maurice Kottelat. Travaux du Muséum National d'Histoire Naturelle "Grigore Antipa" 47: 269-277
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Re: Reclassification of loach names

Post by Emma Turner » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:43 pm

Mad Duff wrote:I was having a look a post on another site today that listed the new names for loaches and realised that Botia (probably isn't now :lol: ) Rostrata is missing, is it still Botia or has it changed.

This is the list I was looking at:
http://www.petfrd.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12446
If I remember correctly, I think Kottelat is of the opinion B. rostrata is a synonym of B. almorhae. But I don't have the paper to hand, it's still on my old computer.

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Post by Mad Duff » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:57 pm

So in that case shouldnt B. kubotai be classed as a synonym of B. almorhae as well.

I admit that there are that many patterns of B. almorhae some patterns do resemble B. rostrata but the B. kubotai I have was almost identical markings wise when I got it to the B. rostrata that I got with it, but now the markings have changed it is definately B. kubotai.
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Post by Emma Turner » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:08 pm

There have been some 'fun' discussions on LOL on this very subject. :lol: Have a trawl through the archives! :wink:

I'll check Kottelat's paper later on, but for now I'm off to the shop to help take care of tonight's shipments.

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Post by Martin Thoene » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:14 pm

Here's another post by some bloke..............

http://www.tropicalfishforums.co.uk/for ... php?t=3334

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Post by helen nightingale » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:23 pm

i dont suppose anyone has that wretched paper talked about on petfrd about b. birdi too?

we need a paper sharing area on here! its all interesting stuff

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Post by Martin Thoene » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:46 pm

Been diggin' Helen:

http://www.nrm.se/inenglish/researchand ... 17198.html

http://zipcodezoo.com/Animals/B/Botia_birdi.asp

http://ichtyonb1.mnhn.fr/Reproduction/F ... Code=19567

Looks like our old buddy Ola is on the case.......

http://www.djurportalen.nu/forum.php?go ... 261&site=1

No pictures?

http://www.calacademy.org/research/icht ... Search.asp

Well maybe.....

http://artedi.nrm.se/nrmfish/imgsearch.php

Type in Botia birdi and choose 'Species' in Order By box......it'll give you a specemin photo.

Helen, I have a fair number of pdf files of descriptions on Loaches. I could E-mail you a list if you'd like.

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Post by helen nightingale » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:24 pm

cheers Martin. that would be great!

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