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Two new loaches

Post by Frank M. Greco » Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:13 pm

These came in from Thailand as "Botia Mountain Loach". Well, they are not Botias! Any ideas?

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They also had something called a Botia Mountain Loach Black, but that was not shipped.
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Post by Graeme Robson » Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:22 pm

They look like the true Tuberoschistura specimens!! :shock:

Imagine the above loach as a adult Rosy loach but Tuberoschistura arakanensis may be a Synonym for Tuberoschistura baenzigeri (Kottelat, 1983) :?:

This could be a Tuberoschistura baenzigeri.
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Post by Graeme Robson » Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:46 pm

Pickled specimens aren't the same.....

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Post by Frank M. Greco » Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:50 pm

Graeme Robson wrote:They look like the true Tuberoschistura specimens!! :shock:
Something I should get more of, I assume?
This could be a Tuberoschistura baenzigeri.
Can't find any pics of this species.
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Post by Jim Powers » Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:52 pm

Here are some other suggestions:
Nemacheilus pallidus
http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php?t=2939

Nemacheilus masyai
http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php?t=3235
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Post by Frank M. Greco » Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:55 pm

The spotting along the sides seems to be different.
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Post by Graeme Robson » Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:56 pm

Size of specimens please.

Interesting.
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Post by Frank M. Greco » Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:00 pm

Jim Powers wrote:Here are some another suggestions:
Nemacheilus pallidus
http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php?t=2939
The dorsal marking appear to be more defined than in the specimen I have.
Could be. I need to see what mine look like when they color up.
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Post by Frank M. Greco » Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:08 pm

Graeme Robson wrote:Size of specimens please.

Interesting.
About 2.5" or so.
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Post by Martin Thoene » Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:11 pm

Looks like N. pallidus to me. Saddles are narrower than the gaps between.

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Post by mikev » Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:12 pm

Frank M. Greco wrote:
Graeme Robson wrote:Size of specimens please.

Interesting.
About 2.5" or so.
Probably this is an argument toward Nem.. species, with color faded post-shipping as is quite common. What about the barbels? Are they as long as with pallidus/masyai ???
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Post by Frank M. Greco » Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:20 pm

mikev wrote: What about the barbels? Are they as long as with pallidus/masyai ???


I'll need to get a closeup of the head to know for sure.
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