new chronic wasting disease med food

[Erik]

Anybody seen this medicated food from jungle labs?
It has prazi,levamisole and metronidizole all in one.
http://www.mops.ca/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe ... 1140161549

[shari]

The only concern I have is with the copper sulfate. Granted it must be very small amounts, but...

http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/ex ... e-ext.html

[NancyD]

I saw it too & thought of trying it with my new sids "just in case". I seemed to remember someone (here?) have sids have a bad reaction to metronidizole. Could have been something else but I decided not to risk it without further research. Jungle also has anti-bacteria food, problem is sick fish often don't eat. Also just lightly dosing can lead to all kinds of drug resistance.
Nancy

[cybermeez]

Yeah, I've seen and tried this. It's Jungle's replacement product for its Pepso medicated food. They took Pepso off the market after California passed that silly labeling law that would have required most fish meds to carry a warning that says they may cause cancer in humans in the state of California (belive me, California has bigger issues to deal with than cancer). The label would say nothing about the fact that the amount it takes to cause cancer in humans would be thousands and thousands times more than any amount you'd find in fish meds. Or the fact that the carcinogenic nature is only suspected because it has caused cancer in mice when they are overdosed with it. Badly written law if you ask me.

Anyway, it's been my experience that the fish will not eat the new formula. I used to use Pepso on all newly purchased fish profilactically as part of my quarrantine protocol to "clean them out". All the fish (if they were eating and not off their food) would eagerly eat Pepso. Not so for this new stuff. I find it to be a very disapointing replacement for a very good product.

[mikev]

This is rather dissappointing to hear, I was about to order some just in case.

As for the California Cancer Warning: UltraCare I was using carries it.

[NancyD]

I went to a different shop that still has Jungle Pepso. I read the ingredients, a couple times , but I'm not sure of all the actives among the vitmins etc. It listed copper (yikes)& I think nitrofurazole, an antibiotic with some anti-protazoa activity. Cybermeez does this sound the same? I wonder how old it is. They also had Jungle Tank buddies anti-paracite fizzy tabs with metronizole, prazi & something else. Has anyone tried this?
Nancy

[cybermeez]

Cybermeez does this sound the same? I wonder how old it is.

Yep, that sounds right..nitrofurazone and sulfathiazole are the two primary meds in the food. The newer formulation hasn't been on the market that long so I'm sure the Pepso you got is stll good.

[NancyD]

Thanks cybermeez.

Also I was wrong about metronidazole & sids. Joe Loach said it was prazi that he was using & thought they died from low oxygen level under rocks, his other fish were o.k.

Nancy

[loachaholic]

I used the Jungle product just recently on some wormy rainbows and it worked very well, after soaking it in Garlic Guard first. I don't blame the fish for not eating it - it smells terrible!!

I could never get the fish to eat Pepso, either.

Funny - I live in California and Pepso is still on the shelf in my LFS. I never thought to check the packaging, but as you say we are so used to EVERYTHING having warning labels that labelling has rather lost its meaning.

[cybermeez]

I used the Jungle product just recently on some wormy rainbows and it worked very well, after soaking it in Garlic Guard first. I don't blame the fish for not eating it - it smells terrible!!

Now that's a great idea! I don't know why I didn't think of that. I've used Seachem's garlic product and their "Entice" flavor enhancer with frozen foods in the past to get finicky fish to eat. It stands to reason that it would work just as well with the Jungle anti-parasite food. I'm going to give it a try next time!

[fusQer]

what is this garlic stuff you guys are talking about? so did the jungle anti parasite food overall work, or not? i need to use it on my 2" kubotai's and sidthimunki. is this the same thing:
http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_ ... 30131&Ne=2

why is the box orange and not red as in the other pictures?

[cybermeez]

Looks like the same food to me. The garlic stuff is called "Garlic Guard" and it's made by Seachem: http://www.seachem.com/products/product ... Guard.html

[fusQer]

omg i cant believe theres a market for this! (well i can). seachem also makes another one called "entice". i have never ever seen either in any LFS in san antonio. i doubt petco and petsmart has it... soooo where is the cheapest place to get it? ill start hunting

[cybermeez]

I've used entice and it works pretty well too. It's got banana oil as one of the ingredients.

The Foster and Smith Web site http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/Shop.cfm?N=2004.
carries a lot of Seachem products. Over the lest few months they have been beating my other favorite online stoer (thatfishplace.com) on prices and shipping. Both are good

[fusQer]

ok well i got the food and the garlic guard, and am very dissapointed. first i tried using hte food without the garlic guard, and my first thought was, gee this stuff is big and floating, not for loaches (who have hte highest occurance of wasting disease and the need for levamisole which only this food has). For cichlids with big (enough) mouths this food is great. so then i crushed it up and put it in, and it sank to the bottom as if they were anchors, none of my fish even saw it go by. so then i put it in garlic guard and let it sit awhile and smushed it up and the loaches pecked at it but i dont know if they ate it or spit it back out.

what do ya'lls loaches do?