This sounds like a better idea than ripping the whole tank apart to remove the UGF. Makes sense!crazy loaches wrote:One thing to consider before completely removing UGF is to convert it to RUGF (reverse UGF). In this setup an elbow is used coming out the front of your powerheads and redirecting the flow straight down - into the lift tubes down under the plates and up through the gravel bed. Many have switched to this and wouldnt go back. Seems to work well with plants too. Your bacteria supposedly populate from the bottom up, where they are less likely to be disturbed. And no more sucking crud down in, instead it will push it up and out of the gravel where other filters can better remove it.
Just an idea.
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Hi to all, this is my first post on this forum and I found this topic to be the right one to put my "conscience" question in it.
For two years now, I have 5 Clown loaches, really lot of plants and hiding places, frozzen food etc... Doing my best to make water parameters and conditions optimal fot these guys. But there is one thing I can not change at the moment, and that is really bothering me.
I have 65 gallon tank and I know that is not enough for them. 75 minimum if I got it right?
Now I have these guys for about two years now, 4 of them are from 2 to 3 inches long, only one, the oldest is about 6 inches. Got really attached to them, but back than I was assured that 65 gallons will be enough for them (my mistake)
How bad is this for my guys in your oppinion? Do you advice me to give or sell them to somebody with bigger tank? I know it is ungratefule question, but I am faced with real dilema, and would appreciate any kind of oppinion.
Thank you in advance
For two years now, I have 5 Clown loaches, really lot of plants and hiding places, frozzen food etc... Doing my best to make water parameters and conditions optimal fot these guys. But there is one thing I can not change at the moment, and that is really bothering me.
I have 65 gallon tank and I know that is not enough for them. 75 minimum if I got it right?
Now I have these guys for about two years now, 4 of them are from 2 to 3 inches long, only one, the oldest is about 6 inches. Got really attached to them, but back than I was assured that 65 gallons will be enough for them (my mistake)
How bad is this for my guys in your oppinion? Do you advice me to give or sell them to somebody with bigger tank? I know it is ungratefule question, but I am faced with real dilema, and would appreciate any kind of oppinion.
Thank you in advance
Hi Ded1 and welcome to lol.
What's the footprint of the tank? How long is it?
Yes, if your clowns live very long lives and you continue to care for them well, they will ultimately need a much larger tank. However, at the moment, it sounds like they are fine. I'll bet your 6 incher would love more length to swim, but I wouldn't think he's in danger of stunting just at the moment.
Others may chime in with other opinions, and you may want to start your own thread asking for opinions. Ultimately, though, it is your decision. You know what the environment they are in is like. Would they be better off elsewhere?
What's the footprint of the tank? How long is it?
Yes, if your clowns live very long lives and you continue to care for them well, they will ultimately need a much larger tank. However, at the moment, it sounds like they are fine. I'll bet your 6 incher would love more length to swim, but I wouldn't think he's in danger of stunting just at the moment.
Others may chime in with other opinions, and you may want to start your own thread asking for opinions. Ultimately, though, it is your decision. You know what the environment they are in is like. Would they be better off elsewhere?
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shari2, thank you for answer. Who else but a lady would have a compassion and take a time to answer a question that allready contains answer to the problem
Thank you.
My tank is Juwel RIO 300, In inches the tank is 47,5 x 20 x 24,4.
Yes, I had came to the same conclusion. They are fine at the moment, but definetely if they grow nicely, they will had to be given to somebody with larger tank.
I dont think I could enjoy in my aquarium knowing that fishes dont have even minimum aquariuim demands fullfiled.
p.s. sorry for mistakes in my english, not my native language


My tank is Juwel RIO 300, In inches the tank is 47,5 x 20 x 24,4.
Yes, I had came to the same conclusion. They are fine at the moment, but definetely if they grow nicely, they will had to be given to somebody with larger tank.
I dont think I could enjoy in my aquarium knowing that fishes dont have even minimum aquariuim demands fullfiled.
p.s. sorry for mistakes in my english, not my native language

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