Pangio anguillaris

The-Lion · Post by **The-Lion** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:14 pm

Evening all I saw Pangio anguillaris on a stock list of an lfs, so I’m doing a little research, as I’d quite like some. Comparing the profiles on here with the one on fish base, I noticed there is a difference in the recommended ph. Fish base recommends a ph of between 5 – 6 where as 6 – 7 is recommended on here. So if you have experience of this species could you let me know what sort of conditions you keep them in.

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:17 pm

Mine have been living for ages in regular Toronto tap-water @ around pH 7.6. I don't really see much of them because they're now in a heavily planted 120. There always out in the evenings after lights out and in the early morning before it gets too light.

It's quite likely that Fishbase's figures are from a specimen collection point. The species probably does live with water of that kind of acidity. Although mine seem very happy, I would not keep them in higher pH conditions than this.

Martin.

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:10 am

No problems here with keeping them in @ PH of 7.2

The-Lion · Post by **The-Lion** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:16 am

Cheers folks that's great news. An e-mail has already been sent to see whether they still have them in stock so here's hoping. As matter of interest how common are these loaches?

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:08 am

If you'd asked me "how common" 3 years or so ago, I would have said really rare because I had never seen any before. Now, I guess a "spasmodic" import would be a better reply.
Emma can maybe give insight into how often they appear on exporter's lists.

Martin.

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:00 am

On certain lists, this species appears weekly these days, so I wouldn't say they are hard to source. It depends on the shops willingness to stock them I guess. Nevertheless, they are a lovely species, and ours at the shop come out in large numbers during the evenings (which we see whenever working late).

Emma

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:20 pm

Finding the Pangio myersi seems to be a 'rare' find nowadays. Funny how these where common as muck 10 yrs ago.

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:29 pm

Graeme Robson wrote:Finding the Pangio myersi seems to be a 'rare' find nowadays. Funny how these where common as muck 10 yrs ago.

Definitely. Whenever I see P. myersi on a list I get all excited, then P. semicinctus actually turn up.

These are still nice fish, but I'd really like to get some 'genuine myersi' in again some day.

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:09 am

Same here, Emma.

The-Lion · Post by **The-Lion** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:56 pm

Well e-mails were sent, their stock confirmed, great I say I’ll be up on my day off to collect them. Well unfortunately (only because I already have some) they turned out to be Panda Khulie loaches, still being sold under the common name of golden khulie loach.
It wasn’t a completely wasted afternoon though, as on my way home I had a strange urge to go into a shop I wouldn’t usually go in as they specialise mainly in marine fish, only stocking pretty standard fresh water fish. So imaging my surprise to see in a unlabeled tank, loads of hill streams two possibly three different species. If you know how hard I’ve looked for someone in a reasonable distance stocking hill streams you’ll know how over the moon I am.
I managed to get myself some of which I’m quite sure are Sinogastromyzon wui & possibly Beaufortia kweichowensis but I’m not sure on the second, I’ll post some pictures to confirm their id when they’ve settled a little.

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:52 pm

Cool! It's nice to have a suprise find like that.

Martin.

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:48 pm

Excellent!!

Looking forward to the pictures.

The-Lion · Post by **The-Lion** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:40 pm

Here's a picture of the fish i'm not sure of, it does get a little darker but seems a little stressed having been chased by the other.

The-Lion · Post by **The-Lion** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:09 pm

Looking a little more like it's self, so can anybody help with the Id please

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:51 pm

Beaufortia leveretti.

Is this a lone specimen?

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